There are some interesting names being thrown out there for John Gibbons’ replacement

As we know, the Blue Jays are moving in a new direction next season. As they navigate their rebuild and trot a bunch of Large Adult Sons out on the field, they want a hip, young, cool, analytically-inclined manager to lead the next wave of talent into the future.

Eric Wedge has always appeared to be the inevitable Gibbons replacement because the Cleveland Crew brought him in immediately as a player development advisor. That said, Wedge, who was Cleveland’s manager under Mark Shapiro between 2003 and 2009, isn’t hip, young, or cool, so I’m not sure he’s the fit the team is looking for in this role.

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How about some of these other names? I know, it’s just OddsShark so it doesn’t really mean anything, but, for the sake of The Content, let’s dig through this list.

  • Stubby Clapp is one we’ve talked about already. He’s won back-to-back Pacific Coast League Manager of the Year titles and he’s Canadian so a whole bunch of fans would certainly have their dick move a little at the thought of a good ol’ Canuck who probably manages like a fucken hockey coach in the dugout. Beyond the Maple Boner, the best thing about Clapp is the combination of him being a new-age manager with actual pedigree at the highest level beneath the big leagues. 
  • DeMarlo Hale is Toronto’s current bench coach under John Gibbons. Hale has quite a bit of experience as a manager given the fact he’s the guy who takes over after Gibby gets ejected. Do the Cleveland Boys have any interest in him and expanded role, though?
  • John Schneider has worked his way up the Blue Jays system much like a prospect in his own right. Future Blue Jays did an interesting look at the Fisher Cats’ manager who has had stops in Vancouver, Lansing, and Dunedin. During that time, Schneider has worked with many of Toronto’s key prospects who will be working their way onto the team in the near future. Does it make sense to promote him along with the Large Adult Sons he’s worked with?
  • Sean Casey was one of Cleveland’s stop prospects when Mark Shapiro was the organization’s farm director. I have no idea where this one is coming from.
  • John McDonald is an all-time fan favourite among Blue Jays fans. He couldn’t handle the bat worth a lick but he had arguably the sweetest glove in baseball for a while there. Before McDonald played for the Jays he was in the — yep, you guessed it — Cleveland organization with Shapiro. In the past, Shapiro has praised the fuck out of McDonald for his work ethic and character. He has no managerial experience so this would be an Aaron Boone in New York situation.
  • Victor Martinez is retiring at the end of the season and was a star catcher in Cleveland during the Shapiro days. Is there any merit to him becoming a manager somewhere immediately after retirement or is this just a guess akin to the Yankees interviewing a freshly-retired Carlos Beltran last winter?
  • Craig Breslow is a really interesting one, actually. He’s spent two years in Toronto’s minor league system as a kind of player/coach. He’s regarded as the smartest man in baseball and he notably used analytics to try to rejuvenate his career. He certainly checks off the SABR-minded box the Jays are looking for. You have to think the organization has a plan for him given the fact he’s spent two years essentially being Smart Dad in the minors the past couple years.
  • Mike Matheny, John Farrell, and Joe Girardi are on the list because they’re recently-fired managers with big league experience. None are new-school, though. But holy fuck, Farrell coming back would be funny. Hey, we were against Gibby getting a second chance and look at how that turned out!
  • One name that’s missing here that I figure could be considered is L.A. Dodgers third base coach Chris Woodward. He’s a former Blue Jay infielder like McDonald without any of the fanfare but he’s a part of Dave Roberts’ stats-inclined staff and he was interviewed by the Yankees last year. He seems like one of those guys who’s going to get a managerial gig soon.

  • The Humungus

    I’m pretty sure Sean Casey has been in camp with the Jays the last few years as a guest instructor. I can’t find it in quick google searches, but I feel like Blair’s talked about it in on the radio.

    That said, I’m all in on Clapp at the moment. The Cardinals are competing despite the fact that they’ve traded 3/4 of the OF on their 2017 Opening Day roster, which shows they’re doing something right in their farm system getting guys ready (as if we didn’t already have an idea how good they are organizationally), then he’s a good choice to run a rebuilding team. The biggest question I’d have is whether he can handle the pressure of being a Canadian running the only MLB team in Canada, which is likely quite a bit different than managing a Triple A team in Memphis.

    • Paul Beestons Grass Surface

      Why not? If AA could be the only Cdn GM running Canadas team why not Clapp as manager. I think it would be a lot of fun seeing how meshes with the upcoming wave, and uses the player dev background picked up in the Cards org.

  • Nice Guy Eddie

    They would be crazy not to give the job to Eric Wedge. He has two years experience with minor leaguers in this organization as a player development adviser. He has major league experience. Plus, he managed for Cleveland so it will drive the ‘Cleveland Shapkins/Shatkins’ Moron Bandwagon absolutely insane!! He has won Manager of the Year at both the MLB and MiLB levels. Plus, when the Mariners FO fell apart about 5 years ago I liked how outspoken Wedge was about what a dysfunctional org Seattle was. Wedge please!

      • Nice Guy Eddie

        Not ‘just being contrarian’ at all. I think your ‘give the job to Stubby because he’s Canadian’ call is stupid. Bone stupid. And if it’s possible to being more bone stupid than that, I’d award the prize to the Moron Bandwagon for “Let’s not give the job to Eric Wedge because he managed in Cleveland”. So if you would like to call me a ‘troll’, you might look for someone who isn’t a cretin to do it.

        MORON BANDWAGON: “Oh! Oh’! Let’s give the job to Stubby Clapp! He’s Canadian!! Oh! Oh! And don’t give it to Eric Wedge ‘cuz he managed in Cleveland!!”

        Seriously. How stupid can some people be?

        • Nice Guy Eddie

          What I actually think the FO should do is give it to the guy that they think is the best, and ignore the internet noise. if they think the best guy is Wedge, they should give it to him. If they think the best guy is Schneider, or Clapp, or Meacham, they should give it to him.

          What they shouldn’t do is listen to the noise and idiocy from fools who want to hire on the basis of nationality, or even more stupidly, exclude the most qualified guy because he managed in Cleveland. Only idiots believe that.

        • The Humungus

          You’re slipping man. You’ve moved from trying to offer contrarian takes to flat out misstating things to get over.

          I now know for certain that your posts are a rib.

  • Rusty Shackleford

    A manager doesnt effect the outcome 99% of the time so I could care less really. The more talented the team, the “better” the manager. Thats the way its always been and always will be in baseball.

    • The Humungus

      From MLBTR, cribbed from Mark Carig of The Athletic:

      “Notably, Carig also canvasses the depths to which the unit is influenced by new analytics, making particular mention of rookie manager Aaron Boone’s number-crunching preferences: Boone, it seems, has bucked convention by eschewing previous batter/pitcher history and platoon advantages in favor of new-wave proprietary data based primarily on pitch types, spin rates, and recent velocity totals while aiming to deploy the best possible arm for the situation.”

      I mean, yes, manager’s don’t do as much as coaches in any other sport, still, having a manager not afraid to do things like this in an intelligent way that’s also got a record of helping the development of young players would probably be a good thing, and couldn’t possibly be a bad thing.

      • Paul Beestons Grass Surface

        True, but in the end, the batter has to hit the ball. The Pitcher has to pitch and the fielder has to field. I like analytics and I do think it helps, but nothing takes over from the human side of things. Yes, use analytics to put the player in the best position to succeed. 100% agree. But after that, it’s all about talent, luck and Jobu. And remember “…Is very bad to steal Jobu’s rum… Is very bad.”

          • Paul Beestons Grass Surface

            Pedro Cerrano: Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.

            Eddie Harris: You know you might think about taking Jesus Christ as your savior instead of fooling around with all this stuff.

            Roger Dorn: Shit, Harris.

            Pedro Cerrano: Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.

            Eddie Harris: You trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?

  • Knuckle Balls

    Based on discussions on fan, particularly Mike W, Wedge dose not fit the mold what Jays front office is looking for. For one Wedge is not young. One thing is for sure Gibber will be missed.